the art argument

Wheaton Squier: it's an art
Meghan Faulkner: ok, whatever you say, but anyone can procrastinate, on;y the truly talented can get it done early
Wheaton Squier: .....yeah
Wheaton Squier: but it can still be considered am art
Meghan Faulkner: HOW???
Wheaton Squier: anyone can spatter pain on a canvas and call it art
9:40 PM
Wheaton Squier: hang on
Wheaton Squier: fine then
Meghan Faulkner: how is it art
Wheaton Squier: how is it not?
Meghan Faulkner: it does not involve creating anything new, it is an act, there is no final product
Wheaton Squier: ah
Wheaton Squier: there is nothing
Wheaton Squier: and that is what you are trying to get
Meghan Faulkner: yes
Wheaton Squier: nothing is the product
Meghan Faulkner: but then it is not an art form, because a product is something not nothing
Meghan Faulkner: right?
Wheaton Squier: no
Meghan Faulkner: i think?
Wheaton Squier: anything can be art
Meghan Faulkner: but it has to be something not nothing
Wheaton Squier: why?
9:45 PM
Meghan Faulkner: because you just said anything can be art, but to be anything it has to be something nothing
Wheaton Squier: nothing is something
Meghan Faulkner: no nothing is nothing
Wheaton Squier: okay
Wheaton Squier: we will say that nothing is nothing
Wheaton Squier: nothing can still be art
Meghan Faulkner: thank you
Wheaton Squier: if you had a blank canvas, what is it?
Meghan Faulkner: if that is what you want to be believe, so be it
Wheaton Squier: is it something?
Meghan Faulkner: the beginnings of art
Wheaton Squier: not the canvas
Wheaton Squier: okay
Wheaton Squier: so we have the beginning of art
Wheaton Squier: is that something?
Meghan Faulkner: yes but not art
Wheaton Squier: so if i said "that's art" what would you say?
9:50 PM
Meghan Faulkner: no, because it was not made by human hands, did you grow the flax or whatever and weave it, and all of that fun stuff
Wheaton Squier: so it's not you're saying?
Meghan Faulkner: yes, i'm saying that it is not
Wheaton Squier: okay
Wheaton Squier: but you have me the "artist" who is saying that in-fact that IS art and who are you to say it's not?
Meghan Faulkner: if you created it, maybe it is art, but if you go buy a canvas, display it, and whatever, it is not art!!!!!
Wheaton Squier: so i can't proclaim the blank canvas art
9:55 PM
Meghan Faulkner: not unless you created it
Wheaton Squier: is a parakeet paints something is it art?
Meghan Faulkner: yes, it created it
Meghan Faulkner: i think
Wheaton Squier: okay, so if i covered my canvas with paint and then scraped it all off
Wheaton Squier: is that art
Meghan Faulkner: no, it was, but you destroyed it
Wheaton Squier: no
Meghan Faulkner: if there were holes or scrape marks, it might be
Wheaton Squier: i say that if that's what i was trying to do then it's art
Meghan Faulkner: if you purposefully created them
Meghan Faulkner: yes
Wheaton Squier: so if i purposely left it blank...
Meghan Faulkner: NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wheaton Squier: WHY NOT????
Wheaton Squier: i can say it is
Wheaton Squier: that's what i want to portray
Wheaton Squier: i blank canvas
Meghan Faulkner: yes, but maybe i don't agree with you
10:00 PM
Wheaton Squier: oh yes i know that
Wheaton Squier: so if you see it in a museum next to other things what would you call ot
Meghan Faulkner: i would silently wonder what the heck it is there for
Wheaton Squier: heh heh heh
Meghan Faulkner: but, if you become a famous artist, with blank canvases, yeah, right, i'd support you
Wheaton Squier: wow
Wheaton Squier: we need to argue in person sometime

-wheaton AKA the blank one.....